- You and 2 others like this.
- Glenda Allard Barr Thank you, Susana. This is, indeed, an important post. It hurts to read it, but it dramatizes the ordeal that Dirk and Nicole cannot escape, and the need for our energies to find resolution for this issue. I deleted the word "try" in the last sentence, because we cannot end the struggle until good sense prevails and the value of the work our farmers do is fully recognized!7 hours ago · · 1 person
- Chris J. Slater Dirk and Nichol - "Rope-A-Dope!" http://en.wikipedia.org/wi
ki/Rope-a-dope and "Illegitimi non carborundum" http://en.wikipedia.org/wi ki/Illegitimi_non_carborun dum . Yes those who want to be your oppressors and bullies are truly sick. Agreed? But don't feed them and what they crave by wasting your time and energies by worrying about what they have or can do. Enjoy your chosen vocations, it's always darkest before dawn. And there is one coming. There are elections in the District of Lantzville in November and rather than trying to change the minds of those now in power, we need to expose them for what they are and work for regime change. To spend $5,000 on legal retainers let alone $50,000, or on advertising, hoping to educate or change their minds is foolishness. Get on with what you need to do. If that angry neighbour, Mayor, Councillors or anyone else is harassing you or your property, report them to the RCMP, by-law enforcement or whatever authority is responsible for good law and order. And thank you for sharing what losers they are. But what about Jack De Jong's well researched solution: apply for "Farm Tax Status" ? There are 9 properties in a situation similar to yours, but they already have the Status. That designation comes from the BC Assessment Authority and that MUST be the end of The D of L's demands, unless they want to continue this charade of discrimination. Raw Manure, Flies, Plague, Etc. In my opinion, having been there personally, they are FULL of IT! Better yet, the District of L will have less of YOUR tax dollars to spend on such foolishness. Please, reconsider and get that Status, then people, let's work to "Turf The Turkeys" in November! Please, Dirk and Nicole, continue your very important fight: to restore some sanity to our RIGHT to FEED ourselves and whoever we choose without government or corporate interference! People, please, wherever you are in the world, rise up, your RIGHTS must be respected! And tell everyone who EATS: Protect Urban Agriculture, Save Compassion Farm...How? Join the fight! en.wikipedia.orgThe Rope-a-dope is a boxing fighting style commonly associated with Muhammad Ali...See more12 minutes ago · · 1 person · - Chris J. Slater FB always has to leave off something! Send this link to whoever you know who eats! http://www.facebook.com/gr
oups/143703205679538/ Ask them to join in a righteous campaign. 7 minutes ago · · 2 people ·
Sunday, August 14, 2011
Rope-a-Lantzville Dope
Wednesday, August 10, 2011
Our Drinking Water and Fracking CBM on Vancouver Island
Your Water and Fracking CBM on Vancouver Island: This will be a new fight for people who value their drinking water over Coal Bed Methane which is obtained by drilling wells (hole in the ground) loading it up with fracking fluids to fracture the underlying geology to release methane gas for heating, etc.
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Monday, July 18, 2011
The time is LATE! Your health is being undermined by the Corporation.
Please see Grounded News Presents: Save Compassion Farm (click the links)
I agree, Dirk and Nicole are in the forefront of Urban Farmers DOING something about the current state of growing FOOD in North America. Because we went to sleep, Corporate America has gained such a head start and MONOPOLY with "their brand of FOODS", (GMO, Round-up Ready, Terminator seeds and PATENTED Foods - It is estimated Monsanto now has over 11,000 patents - THEY control the foods you BUY in STORES) in combination with their control of "non-natural PATENTED MEDICINES" through the Church of Modern Medicine - we are in grave danger for our SURVIVAL. It's not about getting "along" with neighbours! Hello? Dirk Becker and Nicole Shaw simply wanted to be left alone to try to do their small part to solving OUR PROBLEM what are we going to breathe, drink and EAT, as well as live, but NO! The neighbourhood NIMBY, Jim Brash has been emboldened by the Mayor Colin Haime and majority of Council of Lantzville (one of the Councillors is Denise Haime, Mayor Haime's wife so they consitute 2 of the 7 votes) to escalate his harassment and bullying of Dirk and Nicole. I believe they are acting like Fascists in that community and persecuting these innocents for daring to do something against THEIR repressive zoning and by-laws in THEIR neighbourhood. Rise up people, educate yourself why so many countries around the world don't want North American Frankenfoods! Watch, Learn and APPLY. Tear out the lawn, plant open-pollinated seeds, and seek out Heritage FOOD plants and animals. Or at least SUPPORT local urbanites like Dirk and Nicole who will! http://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=pEYnX3-I0TA
I agree, Dirk and Nicole are in the forefront of Urban Farmers DOING something about the current state of growing FOOD in North America. Because we went to sleep, Corporate America has gained such a head start and MONOPOLY with "their brand of FOODS", (GMO, Round-up Ready, Terminator seeds and PATENTED Foods - It is estimated Monsanto now has over 11,000 patents - THEY control the foods you BUY in STORES) in combination with their control of "non-natural PATENTED MEDICINES" through the Church of Modern Medicine - we are in grave danger for our SURVIVAL. It's not about getting "along" with neighbours! Hello? Dirk Becker and Nicole Shaw simply wanted to be left alone to try to do their small part to solving OUR PROBLEM what are we going to breathe, drink and EAT, as well as live, but NO! The neighbourhood NIMBY, Jim Brash has been emboldened by the Mayor Colin Haime and majority of Council of Lantzville (one of the Councillors is Denise Haime, Mayor Haime's wife so they consitute 2 of the 7 votes) to escalate his harassment and bullying of Dirk and Nicole. I believe they are acting like Fascists in that community and persecuting these innocents for daring to do something against THEIR repressive zoning and by-laws in THEIR neighbourhood. Rise up people, educate yourself why so many countries around the world don't want North American Frankenfoods! Watch, Learn and APPLY. Tear out the lawn, plant open-pollinated seeds, and seek out Heritage FOOD plants and animals. Or at least SUPPORT local urbanites like Dirk and Nicole who will! http://www.youtube.com/wat
Sunday, July 3, 2011
SKU and UPC
I believe this is just the tip of an iceberg; it's another blatant power grab by "The Corporation" It is being aided and abbetted by so called professionals like lawyers, judges and politicians with vested interests in this.
(Click on the highlighted links that follow for background and more information.)
SKU is Stock-Keeping Unit and UPC is Universal Product Code are tools of Modern day beancounters (accountants) and computer programmers that has been sold to merchants as a way to determine usage - sales and project needs based upon consumption. So far so good but I believe the ramifications for people producing a product without having a SKU or UPC is they soon will not be allowed to sell them.
Need the basics? see Wikipedia for background:
SKU is Stock-Keeping Unit at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock-keeping_unit
UPC is Universal Product Code at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Product_Code
The CORPORATION:
Since the Corporation came into being - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History it has allowed people to come together in a legal entity to generate profits and spread the risks. But now, in recent times some have begun to wonder at what cost? I believe as explained in The Globe and Mail, Saturday, March 6, 2004 - Page D3 a review of the book "The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power" by Joel Bakan (Viking Canada, 228 pages) that the corporation has lost it's moral direction. More evidence that MONEY, POWER and GREED is behind these things? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa3wyaEe9vE which is the trailer for the 23 part "The Corporation" on YouTube. Connect the dots to the movie FOOD, Inc. whose trailer is at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0&feature=related
and Corporations like Wal-mart and who is in charge today?
So there you have it, the USA leads the way:
Corporate America screwing the little guy
WHAT CAN YOU AND I DO ABOUT ALL THIS?!
Take action on a small, local basis is first! Refuse to buy into the gods of MONEY, POWER and GREED. Give thanks for what you now have instead of what you think you need! Grow your own food, do not support the "bigger is better" philosophy. Share the planet with others including bugs so that there will be some for everyone. Learn to live and let live. Children belong to their parents, not one or the other or the government. Our homes, our families, our food, air and water will not sustain us in the future unless we take action today...People before profits.
(Click on the highlighted links that follow for background and more information.)
SKU is Stock-Keeping Unit and UPC is Universal Product Code are tools of Modern day beancounters (accountants) and computer programmers that has been sold to merchants as a way to determine usage - sales and project needs based upon consumption. So far so good but I believe the ramifications for people producing a product without having a SKU or UPC is they soon will not be allowed to sell them.
Need the basics? see Wikipedia for background:
SKU is Stock-Keeping Unit at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock-keeping_unit
UPC is Universal Product Code at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Product_Code
The CORPORATION:
Since the Corporation came into being - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History it has allowed people to come together in a legal entity to generate profits and spread the risks. But now, in recent times some have begun to wonder at what cost? I believe as explained in The Globe and Mail, Saturday, March 6, 2004 - Page D3 a review of the book "The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power" by Joel Bakan (Viking Canada, 228 pages) that the corporation has lost it's moral direction. More evidence that MONEY, POWER and GREED is behind these things? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa3wyaEe9vE which is the trailer for the 23 part "The Corporation" on YouTube. Connect the dots to the movie FOOD, Inc. whose trailer is at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0&feature=related
and Corporations like Wal-mart and who is in charge today?
So there you have it, the USA leads the way:
Corporate America screwing the little guy
Take action on a small, local basis is first! Refuse to buy into the gods of MONEY, POWER and GREED. Give thanks for what you now have instead of what you think you need! Grow your own food, do not support the "bigger is better" philosophy. Share the planet with others including bugs so that there will be some for everyone. Learn to live and let live. Children belong to their parents, not one or the other or the government. Our homes, our families, our food, air and water will not sustain us in the future unless we take action today...People before profits.
Saturday, July 2, 2011
Law Suits
On Protect Urban Agriculture, Save Compassion Farm...
Nico TeWinkel Thought you might be interested in the costs another municipality ran into when they sued a citizen. Total legal costs were about $120,000, or $200 per taxpayer. Suing a taxpayer shows great fiscal responsibility, doesn't it?
Thought you might be interested in the costs another municipality ran into when they sued a citizen. Total legal costs were about $120,000, or $200 per taxpayer. Suing a taxpayer shows great fiscal responsibility, doesn't it?
http://www2.canada.com/comoxva lleyecho/news/story.html?id=64 484030-07d3-49b3-9a0e-e3b51954 e0fThought you might be interested in the costs another municipality ran into when they sued a citizen. Total legal costs were about $120,000, or $200 per taxpayer. Suing a taxpayer shows great fiscal responsibility, doesn't it?
http://www2.canada.com/comoxva lleyecho/news/story.html?id=64 484030-07d3-49b3-9a0e-e3b51954 e0fa
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Yesterday at 08:52 · · ·
- Karen Gillmore and 3 others like this.
- Nico TeWinkel yes, different case, but another example of an elected local government spending lots of taxpayer money, against taxpayer will, to satisfy their own egos. And the result is that most of the elected people have been replaced and their reputations are shot. Oh, and of course everybody living there has to cough up an extra $200 for the politicians' stupidities.20 hours ago · · 1 person
- Bernadette Keenan There is that. Most municipalities that I am aware of don't jump in to lawsuits right off the bat.20 hours ago ·
- April ReevesOh no, this is BRILLIANT! Forget about the "suit" itself and just listen to the message it brings. Regan Grill, this is what should be going out in an ad! This is how you throw it back at them. When the local taxpayers get hold of this it will incite a new level of support, inadvertently of course, but none the less, valuable. Locals may or may not like the idea of urban farms, but they all agree on paying as little tax as possible. Phrase this appropriately and you have a valuable tool.10 hours ago ·
- Bernadette Keenanwhat you might also do is some sort of investigation into what kind of results such lawsuits have. from my perspective they are not entered into lightly, usually to bring about compliance, but the awards are not usually very large from what I recall.
Very important to have a chronology of events. That is what the Lantzville will do. They will prepare a list of dates and actions taken. Wonder where you can check these kind of lawsuits....9 hours ago · - Chris J. Slater Yes, Research for those so inclined: http://www.provincialcourt
.bc.ca/judgmentdatabase/jd bresults.asp?target=Region al+District++-+Bylaw+enfor cement+vs.&CiScope=%2FJudg ments%2F&RecordsPerPage=10 &Order=Rank There are 1087 cases to review. I searched Regional District+ bylaw enforcement and this is what came up...Interesting reading... about an hour ago · - Chris J. Slater Hmm, I also tried Municipality vs. at http://www.provincialcourt
.bc.ca/judgmentdatabase/ and came up with 226. Also tried "entire database" then "By-law enforcement" http://www.provincialcourt .bc.ca/judgmentdatabase/jd bresults.asp?target=Bylaw+ enforcement&CiScope=%2FJud gments%2F&RecordsPerPage=1 0&Order=Rank which gives 695 cases and judgements. The very first, under Citation is found at: http://www.provincialcourt .bc.ca/judgments/pc/2000/0 2/p00_0214.htm and it involves the City of Courtenay enforcing residential zoning... 58 minutes ago · - Chris J. Slater Dirk and Nicole: You are in the right and I encourage you or anyone else who wants to seek "food security" to do so in any way that is legal / and or leads to changes in archaic and unfair enforcement of existing by-laws. Unfortunately right now, you are the "lightening rod" on Vancouver Island. Also "Residential Zoning" yields 991 cases at:A lawyer is supposed to research the case and cite precedents such as these. This is by no means an exhaustive listing of decisions, but rather a list of the "better" decisions on which lawyers argue their cases. As legal aid is very short of funding they may not be able to help, but try them at http://www.lss.bc.ca/legal
_aid/legalAidOffices.asp, Personally I like the Nanaimo Salvation Army ProBono program at http://www.probono.ca/council.php and http://www.ag.gov.bc.ca/ju stice-access-centre/nanaim o/resources/info/probono.h tm at which I note is link to Nanaimo Citizens Advocacy Association at: http://www.povnet.org/node /2526. Also see the Law Students program: www.lslap.bc.ca/.I am very stubborn when it comes to my rights and I hate to see anyone bullied or pushed around by anyone, including by the RCMP. You can represent yourself successfully at provincial court, most judges give you the benefit of the doubt in your presentation.Also see Courthouse Law Library: http://www.courthouselibrary.ca/ Even if you lose at the BCPC then you have three more courts to appeal to: SCBC, Appeal Court SCBC and Supreme Court of Canada. Personal poverty is a defense against paying lawyers and you can apply for "indigent status"20 minutes ago · - Chris J. Slater Indigent status is a little tricky, a couple of my "cases" in BCSC are quoted because I was too proud to admit that I couldn't pay for a lawyer and cover my existing debts. But after a few false starts, my cases are now being fought from my "indigent status" That serves to let the other side know from the outset that a judgement against me will be a "dry judgement". Because of the loss of my rights as a man, father and citizen of Canada, I am deeply in debt. Most recently on May 18, 2010 at PCBC I beat Maintenance Enforcement after they took all my assets including my Canada Plan Plan and forced me into abject poverty.As a result I've became a beat dead dad, unable to travel to Courtenay and Bremerton Washington to visit my children, am homeless and have become very familiar with food banks and helping agencies. But even so, it can be done! Oh yes this is very helpful also: Canadian Legal Information Institute CanLII at http://www.canlii.org/ for other court decisions.Thanks for your postings, we can AGAIN grow and sell our own food.·
Monday, June 27, 2011
Educating People about Flies, Odours, Etc...
Open group
Hmm: At the outset, guess we need to set out some information for Lantzville Mayor Colin Haime, certain of the councilors, ignorant neighbours and others:
Compost http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compost
Manure http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manure
Wasp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp
Hornet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornet
Fly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly
Plague http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague
Odour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odor
Surface runoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_runoff
Dirk Becker
Quote of the day from Haime's blog:
"Interesting how those that are in favour of Compassion Farm seem to keep saying that I do not understand yet have based their opinions on what others have said rather than a discussion with me regarding what I understand. I also find it interesting that those that support Compassion Farm do not question Rod Negrave or Joe Bratkowski why they have not visited the neighbour who is plagued with living beside Compassion Farm. The smell is offensive, there is concern about run off into their well from the fresh(uncomposted) manure spread amongst the plants, the flys on their house are disturbing".
Saturday at 22:17 · · ·
Renessa Bak What ? you keeping pigs Dirk? kind of wakes up ya nosthrills don't it. Darn, I always considered manure's fragrance as a super dose of medicine like one whiff of walking in ya house with some's a cooking on ya stove and nuff to wet ya appetite. or walks in on a garden and is greeted with its beauquet of heavenscent let air about the plants as music flows through and bout our being. . .
Saturday at 22:38 ·
Holly Bright Do you think that neighbor would really welcome visits? Is your yard smell offensive, Dirk? Is there ANY way to keep those flies OUT of that man's yard? Yeesh. Is that REALLY why this Mayor is pursuing this? Are you KIDDING me? OMG, chaching, chaching...tax dollars are running down their well as we speak.
Saturday at 22:39 · · 1 person
Holly Bright
I guess the Mayor didn't notice all those people at the meetings listening with their own two ears to what was being said? I agree, Quote of the day. It does get uber frustrating doesn't it. I was plagued with living next to a drug dea...See more
Saturday at 22:52 · · 1 person
Dirk Becker Ironically, what they probably took pictures of is the blue/black mason bees that warm themselves in sun on the front wall of our house before they pollinate our 20+ fruits trees.
If they are 'regular' house flies or blue bole flies, they would coming from the 17 dogs on our street who are pooing everywhere. Do they have e coli?
Saturday at 23:05 · · 2 people
Renessa Bak
funny how I totally forgot this evening of how I'd asked a violin player not so long ago "have you ever got any answers you like?". kNOw, he . share. and then started grabbing answers out of the air from all over at which, my hands gathered...See more
Saturday at 23:28 ·
Dirk Becker A comment from councilor Dempsey in November:
"I find it interesting that Richmond does not allow chickens. Perhaps you could get everyone to jump on Richmond for their short sighted thinking."
Saturday at 23:46 ·
Dirk Becker
Part of email #2 of 5 long emails from the mayor 11:30 at night on November 14th:
Our comments marked with a *
Hello Nicole,
...See more
Saturday at 23:50 ·
April Reeves
I know that if it was me going through this, me and Haimes would be in court together. He's already biased his opinion with assumptions, and as a Mayor, you cannot do that, both legally and integrally. He has no real evidence of where the f...See more
18 hours ago · · 1 person
Robert Powelson Offensive smells? Flies? When I visited, I walked around the veggie garden and right down to the pond in sandals with bare feet... I didn't smell anything, nor was I bothered by flies ( a bee perhaps that got too close unexpectedly, but no flies)
7 hours ago · · 1 person
Tanja Verena having neighbors like the ones Dirk and Nicole have, is disturbing!!!
5 hours ago · · 1 person
Louise Reid wow this sounds llike a weird situation why is this called a compassion farm whats being grown on the property
5 hours ago ·
Vida Turok dido Robert, was at the farm last Thursday no foul smell, no flies, just butterflies...maybe that's what they meant....ha ha.
4 hours ago ·
Bee, Wasp or Hornet?
In City Farmer News - New Stories From 'Urban Agriculture Notes'
Urban beekeeping on the rise in Montreal - Linked by Michael Levenston 
Quebec’s Animal Health Protection Act allows urban beekeeping under certain conditions.
By Stephanie O Hanley
Open File
June 15, 2011
Excerpt:
Beekeepers say people don’t understand bees and confuse docile honeybees with aggressive wasps and hornets.
“When you say ‘bee’ it equals stinging, anaphylactic shock and death” says Branislav Babic, who founded the McGill Apiculture Association in 2007.
“They [honeybees] don’t sting just for nothing,” says Babic. “You have to step on it or poke around a hive entrance for a bee to sting you.”
When he arrived as a microbiology student at McGill University’s Macdonald campus, Babic says he was “shocked” to find no beehives.
“There is no beekeeping culture here like there is in Europe,” says Babic, who used to raise bees in Serbia. “Back there no one is bothered by bees unless someone puts them in front of a sidewalk.”
Read the complete article here.
Quebec’s Animal Health Protection Act allows urban beekeeping under certain conditions.
By Stephanie O Hanley
Open File
June 15, 2011
Excerpt:
Beekeepers say people don’t understand bees and confuse docile honeybees with aggressive wasps and hornets.
“When you say ‘bee’ it equals stinging, anaphylactic shock and death” says Branislav Babic, who founded the McGill Apiculture Association in 2007.
“They [honeybees] don’t sting just for nothing,” says Babic. “You have to step on it or poke around a hive entrance for a bee to sting you.”
When he arrived as a microbiology student at McGill University’s Macdonald campus, Babic says he was “shocked” to find no beehives.
“There is no beekeeping culture here like there is in Europe,” says Babic, who used to raise bees in Serbia. “Back there no one is bothered by bees unless someone puts them in front of a sidewalk.”
Read the complete article here.
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Chris J. Slater @ GrownFoods { 06.26.11 at 11:27 pm } Agree. Most people are very ignorant of the insect world and don’t even know the difference between bees, wasps and hornets. Basically bees are vegetarians who collect nectar and pollen from blossoms for food and turn it into honey for winter use; their sting is for defensive self protection and to use it is death for that bee. If it flies, and stings someone, most people call it a bee. But wasps (and hornets) on the other hand are carnivores and their sting is an offensive weapon – to kill their prey for consumption; so they can use their stinger repeatedly and with far less provocation. To clarify click on the link:
Bee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee
Wasp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp
Hornet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornet
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